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49. Mathematician Sarah Hart on Why Numbers are Music to Our Ears | People I (Mostly) Admire

49. Mathematician Sarah Hart on Why Numbers are Music to Our Ears | People I (Mostly) Admire

Freakonomics Radio Network

Freakonomics Radio Network

Introduction and Background

  • Sarah Hart: Professor of mathematics at Birkbeck College, University of London
  • Also Professor of Geometry at Gresham College (position established 16th century)
  • Gresham College mission: provide free public lectures to public
  • Host Steve Levitt discovered her through online lectures, watched them all
  • Both on crusade to make math education more engaging

Mathematics and Music Connection

  • Hart demonstrates octave relationship using keyboard
  • C note vs high C: high C vibrates exactly twice frequency of lower C
  • Simple mathematical ratio (2:1) explains why octaves sound same
  • Air vibrations create pitch through regular, periodic frequency
  • Pythagoras discovered relationship between string lengths and sounds
  • Other pleasing intervals: multiply frequency by 3/2 (perfect fifth), 4/3
  • Overtones explained: string can fit multiple whole waves (1, 2, 3, 4 waves)
  • Brain prepared for higher octave since it's already present as overtone in lower note

The 12-Note System

  • Octave divided into 12 semitones (not 8 despite "oct" meaning eight)
  • Origins trace to Greeks and Western classical tradition
  • Pythagoras discovered: 7 octaves = 12 perfect fifths (approximately)
  • 7 octaves = multiply frequency by 128 (2^7)
  • 12 fifths = multiply by (3/2)^12 = 129.7 (not exactly 128)
  • Mathematical impossibility: can't get whole number of fifths into whole number of octaves
  • 12 chosen as good approximation for practical music-making
  • White keys vs black keys: white keys allow C major scale, black keys enable all other keys
  • C major gets "preferential treatment" by historical accident, not mathematical necessity

Cultural Context of Music and Math

  • Mathematics and music integrated from beginning, not math following music
  • Pythagoreans believed numbers (1,2,3,4) and ratios created universal harmony
  • Mathematics as foundation: music = number as sound, astronomy = number through time/space
  • Mathematical perfection in astronomy actually hindered progress (Earth-centric models)
  • Kepler tried fitting planetary orbits to platonic solids - ultimately wrong
  • Humans want theories to be "right" and fit observations into preconceived patterns

Musical Taste: Math vs Familiarity

  • Octave likely universal across cultures
  • Beyond octaves, cultural familiarity plays major role
  • Historical example: thirds considered "lascivious modulations" by church in Monteverdi's time
  • Tritone (half-octave) rarely used until 20th century, now common (Simpsons theme)
  • 20th century composers relied heavily on mathematical foundations
  • Risk of over-structure: too much mathematical constraint can sound random
  • Successful mathematical music maintains enough freedom for creativity
  • Example: Hindemith's "Ludus Tonalis" - structured but beautiful

Sarah Hart's Academic Work

  • 2007 paper: "Commuting Involution Graphs for Sporadic Simple Groups"
  • Deals with 26 sporadic finite simple groups (mathematical building blocks)
  • "Simple" = misnomer, actually means "can't be broken down further"
  • Sporadic groups = "weirdest ones" that don't fit standard patterns
  • Would take "year of lessons" to explain paper to layperson
  • Demonstrates complexity of pure mathematical research

Gresham College History

  • Founded by Sir Thomas Gresham (1500s) - 200 years before Adam Smith
  • Gresham's Law: "bad money drives out good"
  • Gresham invented stock market/Royal Exchange in Britain
  • Left provision for college with 7 professors: geometry, astronomy, music, rhetoric, jurisprudence, medicine, theology
  • Unique mission: free public lectures to anyone
  • No degrees granted, pure knowledge dissemination
  • Hart is first woman Professor of Geometry in 423 years

Gender in Mathematics

  • Hart's experience broadly positive despite being in male-dominated field
  • Had female math professor as undergraduate (1 of only 2 in entire UK at time)
  • Occasional challenges: some believe women "can't be as good as the best"
  • US data: only 25% of Pure Math PhDs are female (2015-16)
  • Contrast: women are 60% of college graduates, 40% of math majors
  • Hart's theory: social conditioning toward accommodation vs intense focus
  • "Macho" culture in pure math emphasizing extreme dedication
  • Women may have more diverse skill sets/opportunities

Research on Gender Gap in Math Performance

  • Levitt-Fryer study: girls equal to boys in kindergarten math
  • By 5th grade: girls lost 0.2 standard deviations relative to boys
  • Pattern consistent across all demographics
  • Mothers in math occupations didn't help their daughters
  • Parents reported equal time spent on math with sons/daughters
  • Stereotype threat research: mixed/inconclusive results
  • Cross-country findings:
    • Girls underperform boys globally in math
    • Strong correlation between gender equality and girls' math performance
    • Norway/Sweden/Finland: girls equal boys
    • Iran/Jordan/Bahrain/Egypt: girls dominated boys
    • Single-sex schools hypothesis for Middle Eastern results
  • Attempts to test single-sex math classrooms in US unsuccessful

Hart's Personality and Work Style

  • Describes herself as "pathologically interested in things"
  • Needs isolation to focus, otherwise gets distracted
  • Finds everything interesting
  • Balances abstract mathematical research with public communication
  • Extroverted nature contrasts with solitary research requirements

Improving Math Education

  • Meet students where they are: connect math to art, music, culture
  • Math underlies perspective drawing, Islamic geometric designs
  • Mathematics sold incorrectly as "hard equations" rather than patterns
  • Math and science are part of culture, not separate from it
  • Levitt's suggestion: use "superstar teachers" via recorded lectures
  • Analogy to music industry transformation through recording technology
  • Question why education hasn't adopted similar model