Summary by TwinMind · 56m 15s
Summary by TwinMind · 56m 15s

Jay Baruchel, Glenn Howerton & Matt Johnson | Blackberry | Talks at Google

Jay Baruchel, Glenn Howerton & Matt Johnson | Blackberry | Talks at Google

Talks at Google

Talks at Google

Introduction & Canadian Traditions

  • Panel featuring Glenn Howerton (Jim Balsillie), Jay Baruchel (Mike Lazaridis), Matt Johnson (director/co-writer/co-star)
  • Discussion of Glenn's introduction to Canadian culture during filming
    • Glenn very regimented about diet/health, didn't try poutine
    • Went to Chef Susur Lee's restaurant on King Street (fusion food)
    • Had all-dressed chips on camera and Tim Hortons donut
    • Glenn reported feeling better after eating Tim Hortons

Film Development & Approach

  • Matt sought broader appeal film after making very small comedies with friends
  • No initial interest in technology/Blackberry specifically
  • Wanted to make accessible film in his style that general audience would see
  • Film subverts tech biopic expectations - psychological exploration of three crazy people
  • Described as thriller with comedy, moves at intense clip
  • 140-page script (vs typical 100 pages) with no fat, exciting to read

Glenn's Physical Transformation

  • Shaved middle of head daily for 2 months rather than using bald cap
  • Consulted makeup/hair team - unanimous recommendation to shave
  • Bald cap application took 90+ minutes vs quick head shaving
  • Glenn reported liking the look, feeling more testosterone/virility
  • Had to wear bald cap + wig for later scenes (2+ hour process)

Jay's Transition from Multi-Hyphenate to Actor-Only

  • Previous film "Random Acts of Violence" - wore all hats (writer/director/producer/star)
  • Only acted minimally in that film to secure financing
  • Blackberry was first time being main character in years
  • Felt like first gig despite working since 1995
  • Had to relearn everything post-COVID isolation
  • Trusted the process and cinema being created
  • Nice to care about acting again vs just treating as gig

Challenges of Wearing Multiple Hats

  • Matt: More jobs = permission to be in moment, prevents procrastination/perfectionism
  • When only one job, tendency toward Mike Lazaridis-style perfectionism
  • Glenn: Exhausting but manageable, would prefer directing without acting
  • Weird jumping in/out of performance while monitoring others
  • Editing own performance awkward - asking friends which take looks better
  • Glenn developed distance after 20 years on Always Sunny - refers to "Dennis take" not "my take"

Documentary-Style Filmmaking Approach

  • Inspired by Peter Berg's Friday Night Lights season 1
  • Shot on 3-4 16mm cameras simultaneously through entire sequences
  • Applied fake documentary aesthetic from previous films to drama
  • Makes process less mechanical/predetermined
  • Gives impression cameraman doesn't know what will happen
  • Creates feeling events happening for first time
  • Room for improvisation in blocking, but script was tight

Character Analysis - Jim Balsillie

  • Glenn related to Jim's drive against resistance when doing something different
  • Always Sunny faced similar obstacles - told couldn't shoot/edit certain ways
  • World-changers must bulldoze through obstacles, risk being seen as arrogant
  • Jim needed as competitive/aggressive figure to build company against massive competitors
  • Antagonist but "our asshole" - rootable because understandable motivations

How to Train Your Dragon Experience

  • Jay fell "ass backwards" into franchise
  • Just audition, couldn't assume best-case scenario
  • Now encounter adults who were kids when first film released
  • People work in animation because of movie Jay voiced
  • Feels bad taking ownership - job was 90 minutes every 3 months in recording booth
  • Easier than live action - could repeat lines, focus only on voice
  • Developed shorthand with team over 3 movies + 8-year TV show

Cultural References & Nerd Culture

  • Matt included video games, Magic: The Gathering, 80s/90s movies as essential influences
  • Engineers/programmers influenced by this culture toward end of 90s
  • Early internet was 90% Star Trek forums
  • Wanted to honor nerd culture vs using as punchline (Big Bang Theory style)
  • Actually playing Command & Conquer Red Alert during filming
  • Actors forgot cameras rolling during LAN party scenes
  • Matt's mission to represent 90s culture photorealistically

TV vs Film Production Differences

  • Glenn: TV character familiarity allows less preparation but can create bad habits
  • Must consciously avoid Dennis mannerisms in other roles
  • Jay: TV more intensive - 6-10 pages/day vs 2 pages/day for film
  • TV = 4-5 scenes/day, film = 1 scene/day typically
  • TV gives quicker sea legs but film has more breathing room
  • Indie films can shoot 10+ pages/day on tight schedules

AI & WGA Strike Discussion

  • Matt: AI writing hasn't reached intimidating level yet, uncanny valley effect
  • Still need human curation even if AI improves
  • Glenn: ChatGPT surprisingly good at writing jokes, needs massaging
  • Could see showrunner + ChatGPT as entire writing staff future
  • Humans will always want to tell stories to each other
  • Jay: Not threat to him as actor yet, but concerning for writers
  • Storytelling fundamental human need across technological shifts

Personal Nerd Interests

  • Matt: Magic: The Gathering (dream to be pro player), D&D rule systems, Baldur's Gate, roguelike games, min-maxing systems, Slay the Spire
  • Jay: History books, Paradox games (Crusader Kings), French political simulator "Power and Revolution", Football Manager since 2000
  • Glenn: Music obsession, doesn't understand life simulation games, prefers action games like Contra

Always Sunny References in Real Life

  • Glenn, Rob, Charlie say phrases from show constantly
  • "That is what it is" when someone gets something right
  • "What is happening" - Glenn's favorite phrase from show
  • Can't remember which episodes phrases came from

Acting Challenges - Non-Sequential Shooting

  • Must track character transformation across months of non-sequential filming
  • Glenn: Read script many times for strong familiarity
  • Script supervisor monitors continuity including story consistency
  • Director and team help orient actors to character's emotional state
  • Reshoots common and necessary - half of top 10 movies had reshoots
  • Scientific method approach: experiment, observe, adjust, repeat
  • Ensemble helps set tone - other actors' reactions guide performance