Summary by TwinMind · 56m 15s
Summary by TwinMind · 56m 15s
Jay Baruchel, Glenn Howerton & Matt Johnson | Blackberry | Talks at Google
Jay Baruchel, Glenn Howerton & Matt Johnson | Blackberry | Talks at Google
Talks at Google
Talks at Google
Introduction & Canadian Traditions
- Panel featuring Glenn Howerton (Jim Balsillie), Jay Baruchel (Mike Lazaridis), Matt Johnson (director/co-writer/co-star)
- Discussion of Glenn's introduction to Canadian culture during filming
- Glenn very regimented about diet/health, didn't try poutine
- Went to Chef Susur Lee's restaurant on King Street (fusion food)
- Had all-dressed chips on camera and Tim Hortons donut
- Glenn reported feeling better after eating Tim Hortons
Film Development & Approach
- Matt sought broader appeal film after making very small comedies with friends
- No initial interest in technology/Blackberry specifically
- Wanted to make accessible film in his style that general audience would see
- Film subverts tech biopic expectations - psychological exploration of three crazy people
- Described as thriller with comedy, moves at intense clip
- 140-page script (vs typical 100 pages) with no fat, exciting to read
Glenn's Physical Transformation
- Shaved middle of head daily for 2 months rather than using bald cap
- Consulted makeup/hair team - unanimous recommendation to shave
- Bald cap application took 90+ minutes vs quick head shaving
- Glenn reported liking the look, feeling more testosterone/virility
- Had to wear bald cap + wig for later scenes (2+ hour process)
Jay's Transition from Multi-Hyphenate to Actor-Only
- Previous film "Random Acts of Violence" - wore all hats (writer/director/producer/star)
- Only acted minimally in that film to secure financing
- Blackberry was first time being main character in years
- Felt like first gig despite working since 1995
- Had to relearn everything post-COVID isolation
- Trusted the process and cinema being created
- Nice to care about acting again vs just treating as gig
Challenges of Wearing Multiple Hats
- Matt: More jobs = permission to be in moment, prevents procrastination/perfectionism
- When only one job, tendency toward Mike Lazaridis-style perfectionism
- Glenn: Exhausting but manageable, would prefer directing without acting
- Weird jumping in/out of performance while monitoring others
- Editing own performance awkward - asking friends which take looks better
- Glenn developed distance after 20 years on Always Sunny - refers to "Dennis take" not "my take"
Documentary-Style Filmmaking Approach
- Inspired by Peter Berg's Friday Night Lights season 1
- Shot on 3-4 16mm cameras simultaneously through entire sequences
- Applied fake documentary aesthetic from previous films to drama
- Makes process less mechanical/predetermined
- Gives impression cameraman doesn't know what will happen
- Creates feeling events happening for first time
- Room for improvisation in blocking, but script was tight
Character Analysis - Jim Balsillie
- Glenn related to Jim's drive against resistance when doing something different
- Always Sunny faced similar obstacles - told couldn't shoot/edit certain ways
- World-changers must bulldoze through obstacles, risk being seen as arrogant
- Jim needed as competitive/aggressive figure to build company against massive competitors
- Antagonist but "our asshole" - rootable because understandable motivations
How to Train Your Dragon Experience
- Jay fell "ass backwards" into franchise
- Just audition, couldn't assume best-case scenario
- Now encounter adults who were kids when first film released
- People work in animation because of movie Jay voiced
- Feels bad taking ownership - job was 90 minutes every 3 months in recording booth
- Easier than live action - could repeat lines, focus only on voice
- Developed shorthand with team over 3 movies + 8-year TV show
Cultural References & Nerd Culture
- Matt included video games, Magic: The Gathering, 80s/90s movies as essential influences
- Engineers/programmers influenced by this culture toward end of 90s
- Early internet was 90% Star Trek forums
- Wanted to honor nerd culture vs using as punchline (Big Bang Theory style)
- Actually playing Command & Conquer Red Alert during filming
- Actors forgot cameras rolling during LAN party scenes
- Matt's mission to represent 90s culture photorealistically
TV vs Film Production Differences
- Glenn: TV character familiarity allows less preparation but can create bad habits
- Must consciously avoid Dennis mannerisms in other roles
- Jay: TV more intensive - 6-10 pages/day vs 2 pages/day for film
- TV = 4-5 scenes/day, film = 1 scene/day typically
- TV gives quicker sea legs but film has more breathing room
- Indie films can shoot 10+ pages/day on tight schedules
AI & WGA Strike Discussion
- Matt: AI writing hasn't reached intimidating level yet, uncanny valley effect
- Still need human curation even if AI improves
- Glenn: ChatGPT surprisingly good at writing jokes, needs massaging
- Could see showrunner + ChatGPT as entire writing staff future
- Humans will always want to tell stories to each other
- Jay: Not threat to him as actor yet, but concerning for writers
- Storytelling fundamental human need across technological shifts
Personal Nerd Interests
- Matt: Magic: The Gathering (dream to be pro player), D&D rule systems, Baldur's Gate, roguelike games, min-maxing systems, Slay the Spire
- Jay: History books, Paradox games (Crusader Kings), French political simulator "Power and Revolution", Football Manager since 2000
- Glenn: Music obsession, doesn't understand life simulation games, prefers action games like Contra
Always Sunny References in Real Life
- Glenn, Rob, Charlie say phrases from show constantly
- "That is what it is" when someone gets something right
- "What is happening" - Glenn's favorite phrase from show
- Can't remember which episodes phrases came from
Acting Challenges - Non-Sequential Shooting
- Must track character transformation across months of non-sequential filming
- Glenn: Read script many times for strong familiarity
- Script supervisor monitors continuity including story consistency
- Director and team help orient actors to character's emotional state
- Reshoots common and necessary - half of top 10 movies had reshoots
- Scientific method approach: experiment, observe, adjust, repeat
- Ensemble helps set tone - other actors' reactions guide performance
