Summary by TwinMind · 1h 18m 4s
Summary by TwinMind · 1h 18m 4s
John Shahidi: The Social Media Mastermind You've Never Heard Of - IMPAULSIVE EP. 234
John Shahidi: The Social Media Mastermind You've Never Heard Of - IMPAULSIVE EP. 234
IMPAULSIVE
IMPAULSIVE
Opening Banter and Introductions
- Discussion about Mindy app (M-I-N-D-I-E) - described as original TikTok that was literally musically cloned
- Mindy became TikTok but they "had the original"
- Wardrobe commentary - Johnny compared to Fred from Scooby-Doo
- Logan mentions knowing Johnny for 7+ years, initially wouldn't give him time of day
- Johnny pitched Logan on Airplane Mode 7 years ago, Logan spent $2.5 million on the movie
Failure and Learning Philosophy
- Johnny discusses philosophy: "inexperience turns into bad decisions, bad decisions turn into experience"
- Had app with 8.5 million users, raised $15 million (Shots app)
- Believes learning from setbacks equates to success
- Version 1 of any product will be different than version 10
Psilocybin and Psychedelics Discussion
- Johnny admits to being on psilocybin during previous Impulsive appearance
- Views psychedelics as antidepressant, especially helpful during COVID/quarantine
- Helps creative people feeling trapped, provides escape and connects with subconscious
- Microdosing approximately 1/10th of a gram
- Discussion of Silicon Valley executives using psilocybin for 5-10 years
- Places like Denver, Oregon decriminalizing/legalizing psilocybin
- Johnny did LSD at age 15, still gets flashbacks in sleep 20+ years later
Ideas vs Execution Debate
- Alexis Ohanian quote: "ideas are worthless" unless executed
- Johnny agrees - can have 5 hours of ideas at dinner but means nothing without execution
- Logan argues ideas are valuable in group settings for collaborative snowball effect
- Debate about seed analogy - idea as seed vs imagination of tree
Shots App History and Failure
- Shots app had 8.5 million users, raised $15 million
- First platform without likes/validation data
- Essentially Instagram Stories before Instagram had stories
- Failed because Snapchat (100+ million users) added Stories feature when Shots only had 8 million
- Twitter acquisition rumors - $150 million price tag mentioned in media
- Twitter CFO accidentally tweeted about potential acquisition
- Transitioned from failed app to talent management (Shot Studios)
Relationship Building Philosophy
- "Life is not short, life is long" - relationships built now may be needed in 15 years
- Example: reconnected with someone after 10 years for current business
- Treats everyone with respect - never know when cameraman becomes CEO
- "Escobar mentality" - taking care of people in the streets
- Mike still listed as "Mike from Livestack" in Johnny's phone
Building Relationships with Celebrities
- Started with Floyd Mayweather (10 years working together)
- Met Bieber through Ben Baller (jeweler) who connected them
- Bieber was 18, Johnny lived in Orange County
- Relationship based on creative wavelength and shared ideas
- Not based on present need but future potential
Floyd Mayweather Generosity Story
- First meeting at Las Vegas diner at 3-4 AM
- Waitress was overweight, struggling with cardio due to large breasts
- Floyd asked what she'd do with unlimited money
- She said breast reduction surgery (around $6-7k)
- Floyd left $10,000 cash under bill envelope
- Made Johnny promise never to tell anyone - "that's for me, you and her to know"
- Floyd's strategy: people pay to see him lose because they don't like him
Paparazzi and Kevin Wong Discussion
- Kevin Wong transitioned from A-list paparazzi to influencer/TikTok paparazzi
- COVID changed dynamic - traditional celebrities staying home, TikTok stars going out
- Traditional stars have studios/employers to answer to
- Young social media stars are self-employed, care less about image
- Kevin Wong is described as "nice guy" who apologized through Johnny to Jake Paul
Business Building and Products
- Importance of building products/brands beyond YouTube revenue
- Merch market oversaturated - only few creators can do $50 million annually
- Question about helping creators without emotional connection build products
- No universal answer - sometimes hits randomly (Dr. Dre headphones, 50 Cent Vitamin Water)
Lele Pons Success Story
- Went from Viner to one of biggest Latin stars globally
- 45+ million Instagram followers, possibly most followed social media star
- Had 9 years opera training, music background
- Uncle Chayanne is legend in Latin community
- Hosted #1 TV show in Mexico (LaVoz) with 12-15 million viewers
- #23 song on Global Spotify chart
- Latin audience loves her authenticity and humor
- Billion Latin people from Canada to Chile as potential audience
Anwar Jabbari and Middle East Market
- Anwar is Palestinian, huge following in Middle East
- Similar mob scenes in Palestine as Logan experienced in Dubai
- Focusing on stand-up comedy for Anwar
Working with Brother Sam
- Johnny is ideas person, Sam executes and provides reality checks
- Sam works boots-on-the-ground, goes out networking
- Sam is anti-relationship, Johnny in committed relationship
- Grandfather was Kurdish army general who would run army at night, party till 6 AM
Awkward Puppets Success
- 1.5 million YouTube subscribers
- Puppet show allows saying things they can't normally say
- Featured interviews with Floyd Mayweather (first post-McGregor fight), celebrities
- Considering expansion to long-form content, movie scripts written pre-COVID
- Getting 1+ million views per video
Jake Paul Management
- Started managing Jake Paul, first day FBI raided his house
- Jake portrayed as "internet's villain" but privately very generous
- Would immediately ask "how can I help" if friend was struggling
- Similar to Floyd Mayweather's off-camera generosity
- Boxing strategy: balance between villain persona and complete reformation
- Pacquiao example - nice family man didn't sell as many fights as controversial fighters
Personal Life and Engagement
- Met fiancée at restaurant she managed
- "Love at first sight" experience
- She was seeing someone else initially
- Wedding planned for summer 2021
- Keeps relationship private
Current Ventures
- Working with FaZe Clan in esports/gaming
- Esports just beginning, huge growth potential
- MrBeast gaming channel fastest to 10 million subscribers
- Multiple talent management across different verticals
- Enjoys working with people he likes - doesn't feel like chore
Future Plans
- Book in development about building YouTube businesses
- Full playbook from account creation to monetization
- Chapters on collaboration, moving beyond AdSense dependency
- Targeting people who want to learn YouTube business building
