Summary by TwinMind · 59m 41s
Summary by TwinMind · 59m 41s
Listen World | Evelyn Glennie | Talks at Google
Listen World | Evelyn Glennie | Talks at Google
Talks at Google
Talks at Google
Introduction and Background
- I Am Remarkable global movement: 400,000 people attended workshops across 170 countries, 1000+ companies
- International Day of Persons with Disabilities celebration (December 3rd)
- Host: Vince Cerf, VP/Chief Internet Evangelist at Google, hearing impaired since age 13, wears two hearing aids
- Guest: Dame Evelyn Glennie, world's premier solo percussionist
Dame Evelyn Glennie's Achievements
- Double Grammy Award winner, BAFTA nominee
- Composed for film, theater, television
- Started Evelyn Glennie podcast in 2020
- Awarded OBE 1993, Order of British Empire
- Polar Music Prize, Companion Honor, 100+ international awards
- Curator of Evelyn Glennie Collection
- Created iconic film "Touch the Sound," TED Talk, book "Listen World"
- Recent: 2023 Sontag Music Prize recipient
- Profoundly deaf, mission to "Teach the World to Listen"
Early Musical Journey and Education
- Started percussion at age 12-13
- Schools believed "every child has a story to tell"
- Education emphasized finding links between subjects
- First percussion lesson: given drum for one week, no sticks/stands
- Discovered different surfaces created different resonances
- Kitchen table vs garden lawn vs concrete produced varying sounds
- Dynamics became "full of color" rather than just loud/soft
- Second lesson: teacher asked to create "feel of a tractor"
- Developed vocabulary of sound textures and environments
- Stationary vs moving, old vs new, different acoustic contexts
Career Development and Solo Percussion
- Needed to commission many pieces to sustain solo percussionist career
- No existing recordings to reference - had to depend on personal musicianship
- Brought pieces to the body, manipulated body based on feeling
- Every performance like "world premiere" - different audience, acoustic, hall, clothes, day
- Curiosity about peeling layers from each situation
Listening with the Body
- Hearing aids at school (age 12-13) boosted sound but didn't provide clarity
- "Wall of sound" was confusing, affected balance and touch sensitivity
- Teacher experiment: hands on wall to feel drum resonance
- Discovered sound resonance through small parts of body
- Different pitches felt in different body parts depending on room position/instrument
- Began performing without hearing aids - "heard less but actually heard more through the body"
- Could link sounds through physical presence even when audience heard silence
- Acoustic environment affected rhythm and interpretation choices
Haptic Technology Experience
- Wore haptic vest with music fed through it
- Couldn't recognize piece of music (her own solo snare drum recording played million times)
- Sound coming from different direction (back vs face) created completely different experience
- Haptics good for steady sounds, need development for emotional content
Mission: Teach the World to Listen
- Realized being a musician meant being a "listener"
- Master classes became about asking questions rather than giving answers
- Students became teachers through exploration
- Internet/YouTube changed listening - visual without bodily/physical experience
- "High end, cosmetic sounds" feeding upper body only
- Key message: getting to depth of sound experience
- Listening includes presence of sound, silence, audience, acoustics
- Communication with people with dementia - presence and dedication remain 100% regardless of verbal ability
Soundscape vs Music in Care
- Proposed bringing person's work soundscape into their environment
- Carpenter, teacher, medical person, politician - what sounds were they immersed in?
- Explore within their current space rather than always bringing musicians
- Difference between music and sound in this context
Imposter Syndrome and Performance Challenges
- Balance between confidence (being asked for a reason) and staying grounded
- World premieres with unfamiliar orchestras, conductors, halls
- 2-3 hours rehearsal time only
- Must be open to chemistry, musical body language
- Zoom out vs zoom in approach depending on situation
- Composition work often for media - visual stimulus (elephant in Thailand) with musical emotion
- Healthy to sometimes think "I have no idea what I'm doing"
- Music profession about stress and release cycles
Advice for Building Confidence
- Inner listening and chat with ourselves crucial
- Support system and vocabulary used by surrounding people important
- Reflection absolutely key - need time alone with situations
- Everyone moves and learns differently, at different speeds
- Know when to push yourself vs when to step back
- Early career: turned down major record contract at 19-20 because not ready
- Few years later accepted different contract when ready
- Taking control of situation as much as possible
Celebration and Recognition
- No specific celebration rituals after performances/compositions
- Sense of relief after premieres
- Real learning curve happens after premiere
- Priority: ensuring pieces have independent life, not dependent on one person
- Recognition provides moment to reflect, then motivates next steps
- Not "massively celebratory person" but appreciative
Greatest Achievement and Future Perspective
- Greater perspective comes with age - can look back, be present, look forward
- Keep listening to yourself and what feels right now
- Don't try to fit 20-year-old feelings to current situation
- Don't be dictated by fads
- Reality: body won't always physically manipulate instruments
- Many things musicians can do beyond physical performance
- Can always be part of profession doing something meaningful
Advice for People with Disabilities
- Confidence built through inclusive environment - normal comprehensive school
- Mixed with hearing impaired, sight impaired, wheelchair users
- Inclusiveness always important
- Works with kids "in all shapes and sizes" not specifically deaf kids
- Shared languages can be extended depending on situations
- Music found everywhere - spoken word can be barrier
- Sound connection through instrument/voice/physical expression is connecting point
- Think about entry points - not obvious or "boxed up" ones
- Everyone might have different entry point, doesn't exclude participation
The Sounds of Science Project
- Created with historian and composer
- Rolling out to UK schools
- Explores oral aspect of history vs traditional museum/book/lecture approach
- 10,000 years of human-developed sounds (~90 sounds chosen)
- Stone tool making → spark generation → fire discovery → cooking/warmth
- Progression through helium, steamboat, first telephone message, computer, silent movies, bicycle bell, typewriter
- Entry point for non-musicians, non-historians, non-composers
- Global timeline perspective - what happened in Far East during steamboat invention, etc.
- Impact on understanding where we are and why we're here
International Day of Persons with Disabilities Message
- We're isolating a demographic - what is disability?
- Something seen or talked about vs everyone having something to attend to
- Disabilities in communication in current age
- Communication is key thread running through people
- Creates "blanket of color, texture, warmth, connectivity"
- Opens conversation - example of wheelchair interaction
- Ask respectful, direct questions: "would you prefer if I sit down?"
- Make situations as normal as possible
- Most important: ask "how can I be more helpful/communicate better?"
Evelyn Glennie Foundation (In Registration)
- Listening at core of all activities
- How listening impacts all lives: inner chatter, connecting with others, supporting each other
- Surroundings affect listening and productivity
- Examples: noisy restaurant affecting food enjoyment
- Architecture: curved vs angular corners (helpful for deaf people - not spooked by people jumping from corners)
- School canteens: metal surfaces, scraping chairs, kids' voice frequencies
- Home acoustics consideration in building/design
- Sound "spring cleaning" - unnecessary/harmful sounds
- Multiple TVs, computers, phones in house
- Listening to body as musician - this is all I have to manipulate instruments
Audience Q&A Highlights
Self-Advocacy Evolution
- Uncomfortable promoting self early in career
- Wanted recognition as musician, not "deaf musician"
- Media wanted simple explanation - refused initially
- Through master classes and listening journey, became more comfortable discussing hearing/listening
- Process wasn't straightforward - required inner listening
Home Practice Without Drum Kit
- Anything can be drum kit with imagination
- Example: drummer on social media using sofa cushions
- Feel and belief more important than actual sound
- Less is more - single snare drum with towel, imagine full kit layout
- Let imagination go free
Olympics 1000 Drummers Synchronization
- Many technical people involved (deserved gold medals)
- Different UK groups auditioned with enthusiasm
- Led by experienced percussion students/professionals
- Worked on rhythm together, came together for dress rehearsals
- Recorded drumming part at Abbey Road Studios
- Engineers made it sound like many drummers
- Visual: actual 1000 drummers synchronized with earpieces
- Instructions given for beat, pattern repetitions based on arena timing
- Huge team effort
Silence and Deafness
- Very aware of silence but doesn't really exist
- Body functions continue: veins, pulse, heartbeat, inner chatter
- Mood creates "din" - nervous feeling before performance creates noise
- Only true silence is death
- John Cage's 4'33" - discovered silence doesn't exist
- When performing piece: split movements for listening to self, space, others
- Audiences never report "silent movement"
- Peripheral senses always engaged
What Makes Her Remarkable
- Enjoys connecting with own feelings
- Enjoys chatting with herself and giving it time to resonate
- Curiosity about peeling next layer of listening
- Needs both self-reflection and people
- Hope that space exploration includes listening beyond what's fed through ears
