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Summary by TwinMind · 52m 2s

The Disappearance of the Yuba County Five | STUFF YOU SHOULD KNOW

The Disappearance of the Yuba County Five | STUFF YOU SHOULD KNOW

Stuff You Should Know

Stuff You Should Know

Podcast Introduction & Personal Updates

  • Josh Clark and Chuck Bryant hosting, Jerry producing
  • Chuck experiencing sleep issues - going to bed late, waking up early
  • Discussion of upcoming Denver trip for live shows
  • Chuck planning to attend Avett Brothers concert at Red Rocks (row 70 of 70)
  • Josh sharing Pittsburgh baseball stadium experience during Toyota commercial shoot
  • Transition to discussing the mysterious disappearance case

The Yuba County Five Background

  • Five friends who met at Yuba City vocational rehabilitation center
  • Ted Weir (32, oldest) - janitor/snack bar clerk
  • Jackie Hewitt (24, youngest)
  • Jack Madruga (between 24-32)
  • Bill Sterling
  • Gary Matthias
  • Three had intellectual/developmental disabilities
  • Madruga considered "slow" by mother but undiagnosed
  • Matthias only one without developmental disability but treated for schizophrenia
  • All lived at home with parents, predictable scheduled lives
  • Played basketball together on vocational center team (Gateway Gators)
  • Known as "the boys" to their families

February 24, 1978 - The Disappearance

  • Left homes around Maryville/Yuba City to travel 50 miles north to Cal State Chico
  • Watched their team (Cal State LA) beat Cal State Chico 86-84
  • Around 10 PM visited Bears Market convenience store
  • Bought snacks: Hostess cherry pie, Langendorf lemon pie, Snickers, Marathon bar, Pepsis, quart and half of milk
  • Expected home that night - had basketball game next day (Saturday)
  • All were excited about upcoming Gateway Gators game, had clothes laid out
  • Matthias told mother not to let him oversleep
  • Never returned home

Discovery of the Car

  • Parents called police Saturday evening after boys didn't return
  • Tuesday: Jack Madruga's 1969 Mercury Montego found abandoned
  • Located 70 miles from basketball game, different direction from home
  • Found up mountain road at snow line with window rolled down
  • Car had quarter tank of gas, started immediately when hotwired
  • Keys missing, no engine trouble
  • Wheels had spun but car wasn't stuck - five men could have pushed it free
  • Maps of California found inside
  • Food wrappers found (Marathon bar partially uneaten)
  • No undercarriage damage despite deep road ruts
  • Suggested very slow, careful driving

Joseph Shones' Testimony

  • 55-year-old man scouting camping area same evening
  • Had heart attack while pushing stuck Volkswagen Beetle
  • Around 5:30 PM, 50 yards past where Mercury would be found
  • Saw car lights, silhouettes of men, woman with baby - called for help, ignored
  • Hours later heard whistling, saw flashlight beams about 50 yards away
  • Called for help again, sounds stopped, lights turned off
  • Eventually hiked 8 miles to Mountain House lodge after car ran out of gas
  • Passed Mercury on way out, didn't think much of it until news reports
  • Likely last person to see the five alive

Discovery of Bodies - June 1978

  • Snowstorm dumped nearly foot of snow night after disappearance
  • Extensive search with helicopters, horseback riders found nothing
  • June 4: Motorcycle riders found decomposing body at Forest Service trailer
  • Ted Weir's body wrapped in sheets, tucked in (couldn't have done himself)
  • Weighed 100-120 pounds (lost 80-100 pounds from original ~200)
  • Beard growth indicated 8-13 weeks survival in cabin
  • Personal items on nightstand: ring, necklace, wallet with money
  • Mysterious gold Waltham watch with missing crystal (not belonging to any of the boys)
  • Leather shoes missing, feet severely frostbitten

The Trailer Mystery

  • Trailer stocked with year's worth of food for five people
  • Only 12 C-rations opened and eaten
  • Locker full of untouched dehydrated food, fruit cups
  • No fire built despite matches, wood furniture, paperback novels available
  • Propane tank in outside shed - just needed to turn on for heat
  • Broken entry window never covered
  • Gary Matthias' tennis shoes found inside
  • Theory: Matthias used Ted's larger leather shoes due to frostbite, left to seek help

Additional Bodies Found

  • Day after Ted's discovery: Sterling and Madruga found 11.5 miles from car
  • Madruga partially eaten by animals, found by stream with hand around watch
  • Sterling's bones scattered over 50 feet in woods
  • Jackie Hewitt found by his father quarter mile from trailer
  • Wearing platform "Getthere" shoes, clothes found nearby
  • Skull discovered 100 yards downhill next day
  • Gary Matthias never found - still listed as missing person

Investigation Details

  • Lieutenant Lance Ayers led investigation (went to high school with Weir)
  • Became obsessed with case, even followed psychic tips
  • Psychic claimed boys murdered in red house in Oroville with specific address
  • Ayers drove every street in Oroville over two days searching
  • Snow cat had packed trail day before, making path walkable to trailer
  • Water witcher hired, led to cabin with disposable lighter (families said boys didn't carry lighters)
  • Watch mystery never solved

Theories and Speculation

  • Matthias knew people in Forbestown (halfway between Chico and Yuba City)
  • Theory they got lost visiting these friends, but friends hadn't seen him in years
  • Some families believed boys witnessed something at basketball game, were chased
  • Car's careful driving suggests not being chased
  • Matthias had been stable on medication for 2 years, working in stepfather's business
  • Left medication at home expecting to return same night
  • Three boys (Sterling, Madruga, Hewitt) likely died during 20-mile hike to trailer
  • Ted and Gary made it to trailer, Gary nursed Ted using Army P-38 can opener knowledge
  • Gary likely left wearing Ted's shoes to seek help, never returned

Listener Mail Segment

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  • Information about dental dams for oral sex protection
  • DIY dental dam instructions using regular condoms
  • Latex gloves for digital protection
  • Emphasis on STI prevention in queer women relationships