Summary by TwinMind · 43m 40s
Summary by TwinMind · 43m 40s

The Mystery of the Toynbee Tiles | STUFF YOU SHOULD KNOW

The Mystery of the Toynbee Tiles | STUFF YOU SHOULD KNOW

Stuff You Should Know

Stuff You Should Know

Introduction and Overview

  • Podcast: Stuff You Should Know, hosts Josh Clark and Chuck Bryant
  • Topic suggested by Alexander/Alex Ramos from State College, Pennsylvania
  • Toynbee tiles phenomenon: mysterious linoleum tiles embedded in asphalt
  • Found on street corners, crosswalks, intersections across Northeast US
  • Concentrated in Philadelphia, extending west to Kansas City
  • Also found in Chile, Argentina, Brazil
  • Active since mid-1980s, possibly continuing today
  • License plate-sized tiles with bizarre messages

Main Message Content

  • Primary message in distinct all-caps script made of cut-out linoleum letters:
    • "TOYNBEE IDEA"
    • "IN KUBRICK'S 2001"
    • "RESURRECT DEAD"
    • "ON PLANET JUPITER"
  • Additional smaller messages/tags:
    • "Media will be reduced to ash"
    • "You must make plus place tiles you!!!"
    • "I'm only one man" (key clue)
    • "When I caught a fatal disease they gloated over its death"
    • "Now Galileo's cult of the hellion is now searching for more than one hell ideologies to get more reward"
    • "Murder all journalists I beg you"
  • "Hellions" refers to Jewish people/Jewish media conspiracy (anti-Semitic elements)

Historical Context and Origins

  • Arnold J. Toynbee: popular historian who wrote about civilizations
    • Studied rise/fall patterns of civilizations
    • Civilizations rise when creative people address problems
    • Fall when people stop responding creatively to problems
    • Later took increasingly Christian worldview
    • Views fell out of favor with historians
  • Stanley Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey connection
    • Star child reborn on Jupiter in novel
    • Astronauts dispatched to Jupiter to investigate signal
  • Tile maker's interpretation: Toynbee had idea of scientifically resurrecting dead on Jupiter, depicted in 2001

Early Communication Methods

  • Pre-tile activities in Philadelphia (early 1980s):
    • Posters around city with similar messages
    • TV signal interruptions via high-powered car antenna
    • Driving around neighborhood broadcasting messages
  • 1980: Call to Larry King's late-night radio show about resurrecting dead on Jupiter
  • 1983: David Mamet wrote play "4am" based on Larry King show
    • Play featured caller discussing resurrecting dead molecules on Jupiter
    • Mamet likely unconsciously remembered tile maker's call
    • Not coincidence due to identical language usage

Philadelphia Connections and Press Contact

  • 1983: Tile maker contacted Philadelphia Inquirer journalist Clark de Leon
  • De Leon wrote unflattering piece about the ideas
  • This triggered tile maker's disdain for media (evident in later tiles)
  • Minority Association formed by tile maker (actually one person using aliases)
  • Radio broadcasts offering to send information to interested parties
  • Materials sent to people who requested them, discovered 20 years later

The Three Investigators

  • Justin Durr, Steve Weinick, Colin Smith
  • Met online through individual interest in tiles
  • Worked together on investigation, featured in documentary
  • Found crucial Minority Association documents
  • Performed detective work that essentially solved the mystery

Investigation and Identity Discovery

  • Documents signed by "James Marasco" (alias used by tile maker)
  • Real James Marasco in Philadelphia unconnected to tiles
  • Only other name in documents: Severino "Sevi" Verna
  • Verna tracked to Philadelphia neighborhood
  • Neighbors described him as recluse, shopped at night
  • Had old car with huge antenna, no passenger seat, hole in floorboard
  • Incident where people broke in, held knife to throat over TV interruptions
  • Became more reclusive after incident
  • Investigators knocked on door, no response
  • Mother confirmed Sevi doesn't travel due to lung condition

Other Suspects Ruled Out

  • Railroad Jim: died before some tiles appeared
  • James Marasco: died 2003, tiles continued after
  • Widow confirmed no knowledge of Jupiter/2001/tiles
  • Timeline evidence points conclusively to Severino Verna

Tile Construction and Installation Method

  • Made of linoleum letters cut in distinctive script
  • Wrapped in black tar paper (roof paper)
  • Asphalt crack filler used as adhesive
  • Installation process discovered by investigators:
    • Pre-made tiles with crack filler on bottom, tar paper on top
    • Dropped from car through hole in floorboard
    • Black tar paper makes tile invisible initially
    • Cars/pedestrians wear away tar paper over weeks/months
    • Reveals tile message underneath
    • Summer installation recommended for sun to bake into asphalt
  • Ingenious, elegant, simple method
  • Could install at stop lights or briefly stopping in traffic
  • Explains appearance in dangerous locations (middle of highways, Holland Tunnel entrance)

Tile Characteristics and Lifespan

  • Ephemeral nature: typically last about 1 year
  • Made of linoleum embedded in asphalt
  • Constantly driven/walked over
  • Some cities (Chicago, New York) actively remove when reported
  • Most eventually wear away or get repaved over
  • Tile maker constantly updating/replacing since mid-1980s

Geographic Distribution Mystery

  • South American tiles (Brazil, Chile, Argentina) appeared before Philadelphia tiles
  • Contained Philadelphia street address (Verna's address)
  • Mystery: Verna's mother said he doesn't travel due to lung condition
  • Possible explanation: proxy/accomplice placed South American tiles
  • Connection to Toynbee's autobiography mentioning these locations

Copycat Tiles and Authentication

  • Many copycats emerged over years
  • Some trying to confuse investigation
  • Others following tile maker's lead
  • Investigators became expert at distinguishing authentic tiles
  • Identified different "periods" in tile maker's work
  • Most prolific copycat: "House of Hades"
    • Focused on anti-media messages
    • Not interested in Jupiter resurrection theme

Documentary and Resolution

  • "Resurrect Dead" documentary (available on YouTube)
  • About 1.5 hours long, worth watching
  • 6+ rating on IMDb
  • Essentially solved the mystery
  • Fresh tile discovery was breakthrough moment
  • Investigator found newly laid tile, yelled for tile maker to come out
  • Led to understanding of installation method

Ethical Considerations and Privacy

  • Debate over investigating reclusive individual
  • Investigators banging on door, calling mother
  • Person clearly scared, hiding upstairs
  • Documentary release led to temporary lull in tile activity
  • Final encounter: mutual recognition on bus between investigator and tile maker
  • Investigator decided to leave tile maker alone permanently
  • Question of whether this was art project, mental illness expression, or genuine belief

Tile Maker's Apparent Goals

  • Press materials stated goal: "most unusual scientific movement in USA"
  • Wanted world to "put all other affairs aside to scientifically colonize planet Jupiter"
  • Belief that science should carry out God's promise of afterlife
  • Jupiter-sized planet needed to fit all resurrected people
  • May have genuinely believed in starting movement while being unable to lead it personally
  • Ambiguity remains about true purpose: art, illness, or sincere belief

Current Status

  • Activity may continue today
  • Tiles still appear periodically
  • Mystery of true purpose remains unsolved
  • Tile maker's identity essentially confirmed as Severino Verna
  • Method of installation understood
  • Geographic spread explained
  • Historical context established